Two interviews with Rhonda

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‘The Flute Examiner’

A Conversation with Rhonda Larson: Work Hard,Play Harder and Follow Your Bliss  by Jessica Dunnavant


Rhonda Larson is a Grammy Award-winning player of the flute, born and raised in the mountains of Montana.
This Big Sky Country in the Wild West helped form her into a nature-loving, free spirited, trail blazing artist.
She entered the national music scene by winning first prize in the National Flute Association’s Young Artist
Competition at the age of 22, including a Carnegie Hall debut. Shortly thereafter, Rhonda was invited to join
forces with the Paul Winter Consort, initiating her journey into a rich palette of music gleaned from around
the world. Rhonda tours world-wide, and has a discography of over 20 commercial recordings.  As a
sought-after teacher, she conducts masterclasses at universities, flute organizations, community outreach
events, and individual instruction. She owns and operates her publishing company, Wood Nymph Music,
producing her sheet music from graphic design to distribution. Rhonda and her husband, Dr. Lee J. deLisle,
live in Connecticut, and part time at their home in the medieval village of Roccantica, Italy. When not playing
the flute, Rhonda can be found outdoors.

Tell us just a little about your background. How did you come to be a Grammy-winning
international performing artist?

Not until well into my career, after college, did it actually occur to me that if you want to be a solo flute
player, the music you will play from the start is classical music–since there is no other option at the time
one begins learning flute. I thought nothing of it, and love classical music, and knew I would do this for
my life’s music. But I had one concern while still in college preparing myself for such a solo career: our
flute repertoire. It meant that I would generally be playing the same dozen or so best pieces for the rest
of my life. I worried about them becoming stale for me, so my solution was that I would memorize
everything I played, requiring complete attention during every performance–memorization being the
method to keep the music fresh. My first break came the summer before my seniory ear in college, in
winning the NFA Young Artists competition. At the very end of my senior year, I was ‘discovered’ by
Paul Winter (of The Paul Winter Consort), and literally walked from college graduation into this professional
group.  I had known and loved their music since high school, so it was a great surprise to be invited
to become a member of their group. The experience with the Consort expanded my musical palette
exponentially, and I knew I could never go back to only playing Classical music. I realized I could play
any music I loved, from around the globe! After six years with the Consort, we won a Grammy Award for
our “Spanish Angel” recording from a live tour throughout Spain, and it featured more flute than any
previous recording with them.

When I think of you and your performing life, I always think of travel. I love my memories
of seeing you play so many different kinds of flutes and so many different styles and genres
of music from around the world. What has all your travel brought into your life?

I’ve always thought that traveling is the best education an artist can receive, due to the diversity of cultures
and people. It not only allows for a better understanding of human behavior, but it brings home how
profound and important music is across the globe. No other art form offers what music can, no matter what
language or societal issues are a particular culture’s norm. Traveling also showed me how many flutes there
were around the world, and I began collecting and learning them, one at a time. It led me to composing my
own music that could include the use of these various flutes, and to immersing myself in the musical cultures
from which they originated.

Your classical skill set is so impressive–you have such flawless technique and such a rich,
vibrant sound. What sorts of things do you do to stock your toolbox, so to speak?

It is all in how I train while practicing, with the goal of how I want my performances to be. My facility on
the flute cannot be an issue–after all, the challenges of the flute are our problems to solve, and should not
be noticeable to our listeners as much as is possible. First and foremost, I focus on relaxed (liquid) fingers,
and as little tension as possible in how I produce the sound or even how I use my body. If I pay attention to
these finer points, how it sounds, how to deliver it when in training (practice), then I have complete,
unhindered freedom when I perform.

What is the difference, in your mind, between life as a composer and life as a performer
of other people’s music?

Excellent question, I wish I could answer it! I never thought I would write my own music, so it is a great
surprise, and I am reluctant to call myself a ‘composer’. I write so I can have music to play, and that is
how it started–I needed something new, tailored to my interests and certain techniques that appealed
to me on the flute. I write to perform, so I can’t really separate the two. But I can say that writing
my own music is often the most difficult task of anything I do.  It takes so much time, and even then,
it doesn’t guarantee an end result. The  process is very mystical to me:  it’s like a gift offered to me, and
I have to figure it out–catch it while it comes past me in the wind, metaphorically speaking. Playing
classical music, I never thought much about the fact that this was someone else’s music, because as
interpreters, it must become our music. But what an amazing difference when the music comes from
yourself, and is fully relevant to not only the time in which you live, but is an offering to give back to
your world! The circle of this process is like a gift given to me. I must do the work of developing and
comprehending it, then it is given back to the world–which again is a gift back to me by the very act of
playing it forward into the hearts of the hearers!

It’s really easy for those of us with Classical training to find ourselves locked inside the
box of printed music. How can we start to break out?

I couldn’t agree more with the ‘locked box’ syndrome. Too many people play right TO the stand/music,
not to its listeners, and the printed page tends to bring this about. It is understandable that people are
afraid to play from memory, but one can at least practice their music from memory. It is incredible how
it opens your ears and gives you a real depth once you play from the inside out, rather than the outside in
(reading). Learn slow tunes by ear, never looking at a single written note. Or, start by memorizing Mozart,
because it has predictable sequences, developments, patterns and scales. It teaches us how to organize our
brains in order to play from memory. There is a profound freedom in playing without reading, and with no
music stand to block us from the people to whom we are playing.

I’m someone who spends the bulk of my professional life teaching flute lessons to children
and teens. I’m always trying to find ways to teach my students how to find their own
creativity and their own voice. What are some ways you might encourage those things?

I think it can start with the exercises. Get them to make up an exercise for any particular issue–or make it
up together. This will start to develop a personal/meaningful sense of playing that will already be more musical.
Generally, the etudes and all the technique work that is such a huge focus so early on tends to divorce the student
from musicality, because etudes aren’t designed for that. Think of the benefit of combining both elements,
technical practice that is musical, rather than compartmentalizing technique over here in this corner for twenty
minutes, music over there in that corner for twenty minutes.  Not segregating exercises from musicality other
than to refine
them is more true to the end goal of performing/playing. If a student doesn’t feel anything because
of the nature of the exercises, it’s just like typing, a means to an end that will someday happen (music), but often
doesn’t. For example, my typing is not the meaning of what I’m writing, only the technique/means. But in my
opinion, etudes are too heavily emphasized too soon for young students, and they learn to despise the work, and
then don’t ever get to the joy/music of it. If a student learns to create some of their own exercises, they are also
learning about writing music, and this can develop with time to expand to writing their own music.

Traditional career paths in music (full time orchestral or teaching work) are more difficult to
follow than ever, and sometimes the nontraditional path is much more fulfilling. Do you have
advice for young musicians who are trying to find their niches in our world?

I always say that I could never have predicted doing what I do, today! It was not a plan put down on paper, it
was a life that offered a bread crumb here, another one there, and I followed them. The bread crumbs are the
clues or opportunities we get, and it often takes courage to follow them, especially if you don’t have an example
of others following a path that looks similar to yours. I think that to diversify oneself in music is a helpful mindset
for today’s careers. Be able to do more than just one thing—one style/genre, one flute, one technique. Ask yourself
what music really appeals to you. Follow it! Try other flutes, because the world is full of their existence and offerings.
Learn to make up your own music, just for fun, not with some pressured goal in doing it. Further, be ready for
anything. If an opportunity comes, and you are not ready, you will not follow the opportunity. If you are ready and
no opportunity comes, you must try to create one. Best of all is when you are ready, and the opportunity comes: you
open that new door, entering a place which may be entirely unique to your individual path.
As Joseph Campbell put it, “follow your bliss!”


World Flute Society

INTERVIEW with Rhonda Larson

By Dr. Kathleen Joyce-Grendahl


What brought you to world flutes?
At a particular juncture in my professional career I wanted to try something entirely different from the Western
European flute, and Iobtained a finely-crafted bansuri. With the instrument in my possession and so taken with its
compelling and earthy sound, I was instantly struck by the knowledge that each culture around the world had its
own unique flute(s). I began learning the flutes, and it was clear to me that the varied voices of these ethnic flutes
were actually another voice of my own soul. Never could I have predicted the path on which I found myself, not
only playing these flutes but writing music to incorporate their use. It is a soulful path that has the spirit or wind
as the basis for all of my musical endeavors, and that is precisely what it feels like – a gift of an expanded expression
of spirit through sound/music.

What is the most difficult and the most positive thing about performing?
The most difficult aspect for me about performing is that, as my husband says, “You are in sales.” Meaning, the
business side of what I do means having to procure concerts. I always say, “I signed up to be as good as I can
possibly be at what I do-live my art. And now I have to talk you into it? Convince you to book me to perform?”
That is the sales part, and I am so surprised about this reality, meaning that I have to describe a musical
paradigm using mere words to implore people to listen. I have always had conflicted feelings about this
selling/pitching’ concept, although it is the necessary marketing that must be done in order to get to perform.
The cold calls or cold contacts must be made. I honestly do not want to have to convince people, or “go after”
getting concerts; rather, I would like the music/craft to speak for itself and pave its own way. But the reality is
that this is one of the necessary tasks of being an artist.
As to the most positive aspect about performing, hands down the answer is: GETTING TO DO IT! I honestly live
for getting to give what I have been given–the moment of walking onto the stage and sharing it. Otherwise, I am
just in the practice room, working toward the next time I get to give it away. That love and joy of getting to perform
completes the whole circle of progression: gift, work, fruition, and finally, sharing.

What do you wish people knew about you?
It is true when I say I was born wanting to play the flute, although I had to wait until band was offered in grade
five (age ten) in order to begin. Then and there, I said to myself, “My life can finally begin,” and it did.  I was a
diary-keeper at the time, and have been an avid journaler all my life, with the earliest diary still in existence
coming from grade six. It is hilarious to read any part of this diary for many reasons, not the least of which my
sign-off at the end of each daily entry always said, “Bye, Rolf!” This is the nickname that I gave to myself, which
were the letters of my full name, standing for Rhonda Orlene Larson Flute. All through the diary on any page
where there was still available space, I always wrote some calligraphic variation of lettering in all capitals that
said, “FLUTE,” or “FLUTE POWER,” often with a heart around it! I even made a t-Shirt for myself where I traced
on a beautiful font which read FLUTE POWER across the chest, painted with colorful fabric ink. I still own that
tiny t-shirt. Clearly, I have always been a freak for the flute–all flutes–from the very beginning, and I am so
fortunate to keep living that beautiful life it has given me. The flute chose me, rather than the other way around,
and it gives me wings!


Rhonda Larson